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Ewan's avatar

I also developed a pretty extreme obsession with watching food-related content on YouTube and the like when I under went a significant calorie deficit for a period of a few months. While arguably improving my knowledge of culinary techniques and recipes that could be available to myself, I was barely able to put any of it into practice while following the very diet that was producing such interest. A unique torture lol.

What has always led to weight loss for myself, with minimal effort, has been being away from my parent's home. Eating similar meals every day and a reduced amount of snackable food in the vicinity naturally dropped my body weight by about 10-15% with zero effort on my behalf. This equating to a drop in BMI from about 24 to 22. I wouldn't even say that this has been associated with a reduced enjoyment of food either, though I do generally consume highly sugared products less often. If you have a particularly strong sweet tooth, then this may be harder for you.

Contrary to your above point about alcohol consumption, my periods of heaviest drinking usually led to me losing some weight as well. On a hangover my appetite was severely reduced. Part of that weight loss might be just due to dehydration though lol. It does seem possible to me that binge drinking 3-4 times a week versus daily consumption of a few alcoholic drinks may lead to different body weight outcomes?

Oh, and a nicotine habit. Many of my skinniest friends are smokers and I have found it "fills a hole", or at least makes you less aware of said hole. Of course, picking up nicotine consumption in an attempt to lose body weight may be trading one pathology for another.

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For what it's worth, I gained weight after I went vegan. My case was certainly unusual:

- I was extremely fit as a teenager, doing ≥10 hours of gymnastics training per week, so despite a few years of no exercise and subpar eating in my early twenties I still didn't have a huge amount of weight available to lose;

- I was already on an upward trajectory with my weight when I went vegan, albeit a slower one, partly due to the aforementioned;

- It was during the pandemic, where loads of people gained weight.

So yes, I don't think my example tells against the generalisation 'going vegan might help you lose weight'. But I certainly did feel that suddenly having a much reduced base of recipes caused me to eat out and order in much more, rather than (as other vegans do) throwing themselves into learning new recipes.

And so even if my experience doesn't tell against the claim that going vegan leads to weight loss in expectation, I do feel that it helps give weight (no pun intended) to the idea that using major lifestyle changes as a tactic for weight loss is going to be a high-variance strategy. (Which, anyway, seems like it's almost definitionally true.) There might be a good chance you lose weight, but the amount you are likely to lose is all over the place, and there's also a non-negligible chance you gain weight - because a big lifestyle change is just a *change*, and its effects are not inherently guaranteed to be positive or negative. Certainly, I can see other weird interaction effects leading to weight gain from stimulant use or even exercise (I know many fellas who got into powerlifting to lose weight and ended up gaining).

I couldn't tell you how likely any of this is for any given lifestyle change, but it worries me, because the downsides of being overweight are not linear: being overweight is worse than being a healthy weight, sure, but it's so much better than being obese. I I were offered a 50/50 coin toss between losing 10kg (and becoming a healthy weight) and gaining 10kg (and becoming obese), I would turn it down every time. And so, high-variance strategies for weight loss which include the possibility of weight gain seem like they would be a bad idea - especially when you factor in the high up-front cost of a major lifestyle change.

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